As the 4th night of Hanukkah prepares to involve significant amounts of parties, the day involves a serious look at one not so serious party, that being the demagoguic party.
One of the reasons I feel the democrats running for the presidency are not up to snuff is because they are scared to death of the voters. They will not condemn Al Queda, but will brag about who can be tougher on Bill O’Reilly, who to my knowledge did not fly a plane into the towers. They do not express hatred for Saddam Hussein, but seem to despise Dick Cheney. They will not try to remove Armageddonijad, opting for dialogue instead, but would impeach President Bush rather than engage in any constructive dialogue.
Most importantly, a complicit media will simply not ask the democratic candidates tough questions that actually matter. In addition to the 42 questions I previously recommended that the democratic nominees be asked, I am adding 8 more, one for each candidate, and one for each night of Hanukkah. That will bring it to an even 50, and the lamestream media will have no excuse for being unable to come up with intelligent questions that any first year blogger could think of with ease.
https://tygrrrrexpress.com/2007/06/21-questions-cnn-should-ask-the-democrats/
https://tygrrrrexpress.com/2007/06/21-more-questions-cnn-should-ask-the-democrats/
Also, these questions are meant to be tough, but fair. Yes, I am a partisan republican, but the purpose of these questions are not to embarrass, but to provoke serious discussion.
43) Mrs. Clinton, you are a very polarizing figure. Give that a plurality of people in this country despise you, how can you lead America? Your husband could not unite people, and despite wanting to change the tone in Washington, George W. Bush could not unite people. You have been genial to your Senate colleagues, but George W. Bush got along very well with democrats in Texas. Given how tough you have been on republicans the last 15 years, how can you get them to work with you given that you will absolutely need republican support to get things done? How can you be effective?
44) Mr. Obama, you have declared that you will meet with foreign leaders from rogue nations in your first year in office without preconditions. Would you be willing to meet for face to face meetings with leaders of Hamas, Hezbollah, and other groups on terrorist watch lists? What makes you think that you can get rogue leaders such as these, Armageddonijad, and Kim Jon Il, to keep their word and honor agreements you may make with them, given that they have broken their word with every Western leader so far? Isn’t the only thing that gives diplomacy any credibility is the overwhelming military force that can be unleashed if diplomacy fails? Why not make these leaders honor past agreements before getting the right to dialogue with you at all?
45) Mr. Edwards, you became a successful attorney by suing medical institutions. Given how vital medical professionals are to the success of our nation, how can you get a health care plan passed when most doctors see you as an antagonist? What can you do to reduce the number of unnecessary medical procedures such as unwarranted ceasarean sections that are performed as defensive medicine? Despite your being pro-choice, abortion clinics are closing up, partially due to lawsuits. How can you persuade them to stay open? What can you do to establish credibility with a vital segment of America at a time when health issues are becoming critical, especially among retiring baby boomers?
46) Mr. Richardson, you want to pull out of Iraq right now. If this happened, many American soldiers would be killed, and America would be seen as retreating in defeat and humiliation, as we did in Vietnam. If the generals on the ground were to tell you that staying in Iraq for some time is necessary, would you listen to them? Also, since many of them are saying that now, would you be open to considering their viewpoint now so that you do not run the risk of having to reverse course if you get elected?
47) Mr. Biden, your idea of partitioning Iraq into three parts has been dissected itself, and many military experts see it as a bad idea. How would you divide the oil revenues in a fair manner, and isn’t your proposal, while emanating from noble intentions, a form of either Balkanization or Apartheid? Isn’t it impossible to give all three groups an exactly separate but equal share? The United States is a diverse group of individuals with many ethnic neighborhoods, from Irish to Italian to many others, but we all come together as Americans. Shouldn’t Iraqis be given a chance to come together as a unified nation, and allow them to show national pride as when their soccer team won?
48) Mr. Dodd, your fellow Connecticut Senator Joseph Lieberman was basically kicked out of the democratic party for following the courage of his convictions. Senator Dianne Feinstein is currently being attacked by the far left. You like many of your coworkers, attended the Daily Kos convention but boycotted the more moderate DLC convention. How can you be expected to lead all Americans when at the first sign of deviating from left wing orthodoxy, you will be excoriated? Can you name any significant policy achievements where you worked with republicans, and can you name areas where you disagree with the Netroots?
49) Mr. Kucinich, many democrats, primarily liberals, agree with you on almost every issue, but are currently not supporting you based on your low poll numbers. While polls can change, you have never topped 5%. If people agree with your views but still do not support you, what can you do to make yourself more palatable to voters? What, if anything, do you need to do differently? Also, how can you be a good steward when your policy prescriptions are considered hostile towards business?
50) Mr. Gravel, you come across as very pessimistic, even by the standards of today’s democratic party. Americans elect optimistic people from Ronald Reagan to Bill Clinton, and reject those that come across as dour, such as Bob Dole, Al Gore and John Kerry. What aspects of America and the world today are you most optimistic about, and what are we doing right?
I have said on so many occasions that the democrats are a bunch of children unable to answer adult questions in an adult manner. I sincerely want to hear how they would answer these questions. If they do answer them, even in ways I disagree with, I will be the first to give them their due.
I believe in the republican party, but a stronger democratic party will force the republican party to better itself as well. Winning by default only leads to complacency, which does not benefit Americans.
We shall see.
eric
“They will not condemn Al Queda,…”
Yes they have.
“They do not express hatred for Saddam Hussein,…”
Yes they did.
“They will not try to remove Armageddonijad,…”
They don’t have to. He’s a weak figure-head who will probably not be long in power.
“Most importantly, a complicit media will simply not ask the democratic candidates tough questions that actually matter.”
Just as they do with the GOP candidates.
“43) Mrs. Clinton, you are a very polarizing figure. Give that a plurality of people in this country despise you, how can you lead America?”
Ask Bush… oh, right. Don’t do that! Teh fact is that most of the hatred of Clinton is irrational and misplaced. She would probably win most people over the way her husband did by riding the middle of the road.
“Your husband could not unite people,…”
Bi9ll Cliton is still a very popular president. This simply isn’t true.
“…George W. Bush could not unite people.”
If you’ve read anything about Bush, even from sympathizers, you would note that he has quite intentionally kept up the political divide, believing he could govern with the far right and corporate backing.
“…George W. Bush got along very well with democrats in Texas.”
He had no choice. The governorship of Texas is the weakest state executive in the nation.
“Given how tough you have been on republicans the last 15 years,…”
LOL!!! Nevermind the ridiculous, sleazy, incesent, phony, constant attacks from the GOP on her and her husband!!! LOL!!!
“…how can you get them to work with you given that you will absolutely need republican support to get things done? How can you be effective?”
It depends on how many seats they lose again this election – and there will be many. But her husband, unlike the inept Bush, did it well. I’m sure she would too.
“44) … “Isn’t the only thing that gives diplomacy any credibility is the overwhelming military force that can be unleashed if diplomacy fails?”
LOL!!! Yeah, right!!! How about this – every time a corporate/labor dispute occurs, we just hand them swords and let ’em fight to the death? Or how’s about divorce court with hungry lions? As in life, there are far more options than force that can be utilized to achieve results. You are approaching things from an Israeli perspective, not an American perspective. We have plenty of other tools and options – that is unless Bush and the GOP truly have destroyed our currency and reputation forever… Eh. We always have the world’s food.
“47) Mr. Biden, your idea of partitioning Iraq into three parts has been dissected itself, and many military experts see it as a bad idea. How would you divide the oil revenues in a fair manner, and isn’t your proposal, while emanating from noble intentions, a form of either Balkanization or Apartheid? Isn’t it impossible to give all three groups an exactly separate but equal share? The United States is a diverse group of individuals with many ethnic neighborhoods, from Irish to Italian to many others, but we all come together as Americans. Shouldn’t Iraqis be given a chance to come together as a unified nation, and allow them to show national pride as when their soccer team won?”
Oh pl-ease. It’s already happening. If you’ve read anything about the “succeess” of the surge, one thing that stands out is that ethic cleansing is the main reason for the relative quiet – not the useless, failed surge. There are 4 1/2 million displaced Iraqis, 2 million are no longer even in the country – and this with a country of only 25,000,000 to start with! There is no Iraq. Tehre never was. That’s why is was so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so stupid to invade Iraq and expect national democracy to succeed their. Complete. Total. Failure. At least Biden is realistic.
“48) Mr. Dodd, your fellow Connecticut Senator Joseph Lieberman was basically kicked out of the democratic party for following the courage of his convictions. Senator Dianne Feinstein is currently being attacked by the far left. You like many of your coworkers, attended the Daily Kos convention but boycotted the more moderate DLC convention. How can you be expected to lead all Americans when at the first sign of deviating from left wing orthodoxy, you will be excoriated? Can you name any significant policy achievements where you worked with republicans, and can you name areas where you disagree with the Netroots?”
Dodd has been a very successful senator. I have followed the senate for as C-Span II’s been around. Dodd is a very popular and egalitarian figure. He’ll be fine. besides, it wasn’t just the “far left” that turned on Liarman, most Americans now think he is and was wrong. That’s not the “far left.” That’s MOST AMERICANS.
“49) Mr. Kucinich, many democrats, primarily liberals, agree with you on almost every issue, but are currently not supporting you based on your low poll numbers. While polls can change, you have never topped 5%. If people agree with your views but still do not support you, what can you do to make yourself more palatable to voters? What, if anything, do you need to do differently? Also, how can you be a good steward when your policy prescriptions are considered hostile towards business?”
He’s in it for the real courage of his convictions, unlike the sorporate shill Liarman. He’s just trying to make a little difference. He’s the only real liberal aside from perhaps Gravel, wjho is running. Conservatoves don’t get that. That’s why they are silly and childish enough to think Hillary is a liberal. They don’t even know what one is.
“50) Mr. Gravel, you come across as very pessimistic, even by the standards of today’s democratic party. Americans elect optimistic people from Ronald Reagan to Bill Clinton, and reject those that come across as dour, such as Bob Dole, Al Gore and John Kerry. What aspects of America and the world today are you most optimistic about, and what are we doing right?”
Voting out the GOP accross the country.
Oh, we shall see alright. If the Dems put up Hillary or Obama, they will lose to either misogyny or racism. Tehn we’ll see how this new crop of GOPers play out. I get the feeeling that Giuliani, or Romney, or McCain, or Huckabee will surprise the far right. I think they would govern in the middle as Clinton did. I’m quite sure of it. After all, they don’t want to fail America like Bush.
JMJ
So, eric, what do you prefer? Diamonds or pearls? Boxers of briefs?
I’ll give you time to poll the public to align your answer to be the most politically palatable.
Don’t foget Jack Bauer, docattheautopsy! Lord knows those “adult” republicans haven’t! LOL!
JMJ
“They will not condemn Al Queda”
JMJ said”
” Yes they have”
Fair enough, but hey are still more afraid of O’reilly.
And they only condemn Al Queda when asked to, or know it will sound good.
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BT wrote; “They do not express hatred for Saddam Hussein,…”
JMJ relied: “Yes they did.”
But have always despised Dick Cheney even more than they did Saddam.
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BT wrote; “They will not try to remove Armageddonijad,…”
JMJ sad for the hundreth time; “They don’t have to. He’s a weak figure-head who will probably not be long in power.”
“Probably “does not cut it. And figure heads do not have power, get it right ! or make up your mind.
As mentioned to your sieve of a mind twice before, we all know he is a puppet, but he is a mascot and cheerleader for the radical jihadist elements in Iran. And should simply be made an example of , because he CHOOSES to set the example for his country. He is the messenger the Ayatollahs have sent. And we should send him back dead with a message scrolled up in his ass that says we are not going to stand for you acting like some kind of peace monger while you and your boys support terrorist organizations and supply weapons to kill our soldiers with and all the while you keep on saying you want my country and its people to die !. ( Big scroll , huh ?)
Bend over Iran.
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BT wrote;“Most importantly, a complicit media will simply not ask the democratic candidates tough questions that actually matter.”
JMJ answered; “Just as they do with the GOP candidates.”
Yea, but at least the GOP doesn’t have cherry picked questions shipped in from across the country, that the network paid for.
And then the network (CNN) uses the questions to draw viewer ship to a show that sucks and needs help.
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BT wrote;“43) Mrs. Clinton, you are a very polarizing figure. Give that a plurality of people in this country despise you, how can you lead America?”
JMJ replied; ” Ask Bush… oh, right. Don’t do that!” ( not funny)
The fact is that most of the hatred of Clinton is irrational and misplaced. She would probably win most people over the way her husband did by riding the middle of the road.”
Is it a fact that the hatred is “misplaced” or “irrational” ? FACTS HAVE PROOF !
Where’s yours ?
Unfortunately she is not ” her husband” which is why they are attached at the hip as we speak. She has no “middle to speak for , with or of. She is a walking contradiction as many many lefturds have already said.
And she is crashing in all polls like a wet paper airplane.
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BT wrote;“Your husband could not unite people,…”
JMJ replied; “Bill Clinton is still a very popular president. This simply isn’t true.”
“…George W. Bush could not unite people.”
Bill was good at bring people together. Too bad he couldn’t bring me and Bin Laden together.
Bush cannot re-unite the moonbats heads with their butts. He’s just one man.
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BT wrote;“…George W. Bush got along very well with democrats in Texas.”
JMJ responded; “He had no choice. The governorship of Texas is the weakest state executive in the nation.”
At least have the decency to not lie by omitting the facts Jersey !
Every governor ever in Texas has been the weakest executive ! Because of the way the state policies are set up !
http://texaspolitics.laits.utexas.edu/html/exec/
The dispersal of power among different officials creates what is often called the plural executive. Unlike the federal system, where the cabinet secretaries and the other top executive officers serve at the pleasure of the President, the voters elect the corresponding officials in the Texas system, giving the Governor no direct authority over them.
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BT wrote;“Given how tough you have been on republicans the last 15 years,…”
JMJ gathawed; “LOL!!! Never mind the ridiculous, sleazy, incessant, phony, constant attacks from the GOP on her and her husband!!! LOL!!!”
“LOL!!! Never mind the ridiculous, sleazy, incessant, phony, constant attacks from the DEMS on Bush and Cheny!!!! LOL!!!” :-)
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BT wrote; ““…how can you get them to work with you given that you will absolutely need republican support to get things done? How can you be effective?”
JMJ said;’It depends on how many seats they lose again this election – and there will be many. But her husband, unlike the inept Bush, did it well. I’m sure she would too.”
You assume that they will loose more than the left ? That’s funny seeing as how the congress we have now has the worst record of accomplishments ever in this country’s history, and you expect more of these idiots to get seats ?
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JMJ tried to be funny;
“LOL!!! Yeah, right!!! How about this – every time a corporate/labor dispute occurs, we just hand them swords and let ‘em fight to the death? Or how’s about divorce court with hungry lions? As in life, there are far more options than force that can be utilized to achieve results. You are approaching things from an Israeli perspective, not an American perspective. We have plenty of other tools and options – that is unless Bush and the GOP truly have destroyed our currency and reputation forever… Eh. We always have the world’s food.”
The loe Kumbaya mentality strikes again.
Oh ! Did I say “Strike ” I’m sorry. That was offensive and violent.
I should of said ” fell on its ass”
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JMJ is lost in blind hatred for anything good that could ever be done by a conservative cabinet. You know it when he says things like this;
“Oh pl-ease. It’s already happening. If you’ve read anything about the “successes” of the surge, one thing that stands out is that ethic cleansing is the main reason for the relative quiet – not the useless, failed surge.
You are 100% wrong. But unlike you, I don’t just say it and expect blind idiot moonbats and the like to take my word for it.
SEE HERE > THE IRAQ SURGE:WHY IT’S WORKING …‘I WALKED down the streets of Ramadi a few days ago, in a soft cap eating an ice cream with the mayor on one side of me and the police chief on the other, …
http://www.nypost.com/seven/03202007/postopinion/opedco… – 44k – Similar pages
http://www.nypost.com/seven/03202007/postopinion/opedcolumnists/why_its_working_____opedcolumnists_gordon_cucullu.htm?page=0
NO ‘NIGHTMARE’
NO ‘NIGHTMARE’. WHY ‘SURGE’ IS WORKING … (The term “surge” is far too simplistic, as it implies simply throwing more forces at the problem, when Petraeus’ …
http://www.nypost.com/seven/10232007/postopinion… – 41k – Similar pages
http://www.nypost.com/seven/10232007/postopinion/opedcolumnists/no_nightmare.htm
Townhall.com::Shhhh… The Surge is Working::By Patrick Ruff…Early indications are that the troop surge into Baghdad is working. It hasn’t been reported on widely, but murders in Baghdad are down 70%, attacks are down …
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/PatrickRuffini/2007/… – 169k – Similar pages
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/PatrickRuffini/2007/02/24/shhhh_the_surge_is_working
The ’surge’ is working- Los Angeles TimesAs recently as a month ago, it appeared that Gen. David H. Petraeus and Ambassador Ryan Crocker would be running into a withering fusillade of rhetorical …
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-boot8sep08,0,… – 40k – Similar pages
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-boot8sep08,0,1085443.story?coll=la-opinion-center
The Surge is Workingat HansMast.comThe Surge is Working. The Financial Times:. Violence in Iraq has fallen at a rate that has surprised military commanders and even one of the architects of …
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He also was full of it the same way by including this;
“There are 4 1/2 million displaced Iraqis, 2 million are no longer even in the country – and this with a country of only 25,000,000 to start with! There is no Iraq. Tehre never was. That’s why is was so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so stupid to invade Iraq and expect national democracy to succeed their. Complete. Total. Failure. At least Biden is realistic.”
The only complete and total failure going on is Jersey McJones ability to prove
that it is a complete total failure.
These are the successes alone last year without the surge
“Since President Bush declared an end to major combat on May 1……(that was the “mission accomplished banner) The first battalion of the new Iraqi Army has graduated and is on active duty.
… Over 60,000 Iraqis now provide security to their fellow citizens.
… Nearly all of Iraq’s 400 courts are functioning.
… The Iraqi judiciary is fully independent.
.. On Monday, October 6, power generation hit 4,518 megawatts, exceeding the prewar average.
… All 22 universities and 43 technical institutes and colleges are open, as are nearly all primary and secondary schools.
… By October 1, Coalition forces had rehab-ed over 1,500 schools – 500 more than scheduled.
… Teachers earn from 12 to 25 times their former salaries.
… All 240 hospitals and more than 1200 clinics are open.
… Doctor’s salaries are at least eight times what they were under Saddam.
… Pharmaceutical distribution has gone from essentially nothing to 700 tons in May to a current total of 12,000 tons.
… The Coalition has helped administer over 22 million vaccination doses to Iraq’s children.
… A Coalition program has cleared over 14,000 kilometers of Iraq’s 27,000 kilometers of weed-choked canals which now irrigate tens of thousands of farms. This project has created jobs for more than 100,000 Iraqi men and women.
… We have restored over three-quarters of prewar telephone services and over two-thirds of the potable water production.
… There are 4,900 full-service telephone connections. We expect 50,000 by year-end.
… The wheels of commerce are turning. From bicycles to satellite dishes to cars and trucks, businesses are coming to life in all major cities and towns.
… 95 percent of all prewar bank customers have service and first-time customers are opening accounts daily.
… Iraqi banks are making loans to finance businesses.
… The central bank is fully independent.
… Iraq has one of the world’s most growth-oriented investment and banking laws.
… Iraq has a single, unified currency for the first time in 15 years.
… Satellite TV dishes are legal.
… Foreign journalists aren’t on 10-day visas paying mandatory and extortionate fees to the Ministry of Information for minders and other government spies.
… There is no Ministry of Information.
… There are more than 170 newspapers.
… You can buy satellite dishes on what seems like every street corner.
… Foreign journalists (and everyone else) are free to come and go.
… A nation that had not one single element — legislative, judicial or executive — of a representative government now does.
… In Baghdad alone residents have selected 88 advisory councils. Baghdad’s first democratic transfer of power in 35 years happened when the city council elected its new chairman.
… Today in Iraq chambers of commerce, business, school and professional organizations are electing their leaders all over the country.
… 25 ministers, selected by the most representative governing body in Iraq’s history, run the day-to-day business of government.
… The Iraqi government regularly participates in international events. Since July the Iraqi government has been represented in over two dozen international meetings, including those of the UN General Assembly, the Arab League, the World Bank and IMF and, today, the Islamic Conference Summit. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs today announced that it is reopening over 30 Iraqi embassies around the world.
… Shiva religious festivals that were all but banned, aren’t anymore.
… For the first time in 35 years, in Karbala thousands of Shiites celebrate the pilgrimage of the 12th Imam.
… The Coalition has completed over 13,000 reconstruction projects, large and small, as part of a strategic plan for the reconstruction of Iraq.
… Uday and Queasy are dead – and no longer feeding innocent Iraqis to the zoo lions, raping the young daughters of local leaders to force cooperation, torturing Iraq’s soccer players for losing games, or murdering critics.
… Children aren’t imprisoned or murdered when their parents disagree with the government.
… Political opponents aren’t imprisoned, tortured, executed, maimed, or forced to watch their families die for disagreeing with Saddam.
… Millions of long-suffering Iraqis no longer live in perpetual terror.
… Saudis will hold municipal elections.
… Qatar is reforming education to give more choices to parents.
… Jordan is accelerating market economic reforms.
… The Nobel Peace Prize was awarded for the first time to an Iranian
– A Muslim woman who speaks out with courage for human rights, for democracy and for peace.
.. Saddam is gone.
… Iraq is free.
….Terrorists are being drawn to an arena in which our military can kill or capture them
Sovereignty is restored to Iraq”
The Thunder Run has linked to this post in the – Web Reconnaissance for 12/08/2007 A short recon of what’s out there that might draw your attention updated throughout the day…so check back often.
Iraq is a disaster area, Micky. We’re running out of troop rotations, money, and patience. There is mass unemployment and deprivation throughtout Iraq. Their government is rife with severe corruption. The Kurds are on the verge of war with Turkey. Iran is more important, and problematic, than it’s been in a generation. We’ve lost more people than we lost on 9/11, and when you throw in the injured and infirmed, the money it will take to care for all these folks, the piles of dead Iraqis and the anger those mostly sunni arabs will now harbor for America – only a fool would still believe the invasion of Iraq was a good idea and can yet “succeed.” If we’re lucky there won’t be an all-out civil war the day we shrink out of there. The war’s a failure. Get over it. ‘Bring the boys – and girls – back home.’ We should help install a strong central, but as secular as possible, Shi-a government, get Iran on board, and hope some sort of modern, muslim Marshal Tito can take over and run things right for a while, even if we would have wished for a more pliant puppet. I kind of figured we’d end up stuck with that sort of option in the end anyway. Too bad you conservatives never listen to us. ;)
JMJ
Still, I have documented proof of all the good things going on.
Employment has been on the rise for over a year, I provided stats and documents to prove this.
Iraq only proved how problamatic Iran is. But the moronic left would rather sit down and have tea with them. Its a good thing we went.
JMJ said;
“only a fool would still believe the invasion of Iraq was a good idea”
YOU’RE THE FOOL, CHECK IT OUT !
Iraqi Firings: Since 2000, Iraqi forces have fired on U.S. and British pilots 1,600 times. In 2002, Iraqi forces fired on U.S. and British pilots406 times. Since September 18, just hours after Saddam promised to “allow the return of the United Nations inspectors without conditions” and expressed his desire “to remove any doubts that Iraq still possesses weapons of mass destruction,” Iraqi forces have fired on U.S. and British pilots 67 times.
This crap and threat was O.K with your buddies ? Obviously !
I have a million more facts to support my end than you will ever come up with to support your end. WHY ? because all you have is a dream and an opinion.
READ IT AND WEAP!
1. Elected Democrats like Reid and Pelosi have no loyalty to the Current Military Personal who are in harms way, or they would make sure they have funding no matter what.
2. President Clinton had little loyalty to the Military, or Iraqi forces firing on U.S. Pilots would not have continued into the 2000.
3. Iran attacking our Military Personal is not acceptable.
Revisiting these historical facts should drive home the point that Saddam was in violation of the terms under which we spared him after liberating Kuwait — with or without WMDS and with our without ties to Al Qaeda.
Clinton would have been well justified to invade Iraq at just about any time during his second term — problem is Clinton lacked the courage to do what really needed to be done (and instead attacked Yugoslavia.)
No-Fly Zones, the Iraqi Violations.
Operation Northern Watch enforces the no-fly zone north of the 36th parallel in Iraq and monitors Iraqi compliance with UN Security Council resolutions 678, 687, and 688. The United States and the United Kingdom provide about 45 aircraft and more than 1,400 personnel to support the operation.
Operation Southern Watch enforces the no-fly zone south of the 33rd parallel in Iraq and monitors compliance with United Nations Security Council Resolutions 687, 688, and 949. The United States and the United Kingdom provide about 150 aircraft and 6,000 forces to support the operation.
All of the above were acts of war and aggression against the U.S.
Not even mentioning the thousands og human rights violations taking place on a daily basis.
All were violations of peace treaties enacted after the first gulf war/Kuwait invasion.
George W. Bush never claimed to have been to Iraq. Rather, both he and Tony Blair deferred to intelligence reports and, at the same time, complained that their sources were limited by the fact that Saddam would not allow inspections under the agreements that ended the Gulf War; nor would he respect numerous UN mandates to allow unrestricted monitoring.
Though rare, there are some in the world who allege that Bush knew the reports were wrong (in some mysterious fashion), but went to war under false pretenses anyway. This would certainly qualify as a lie, but it also defies common sense and probably speaks to the ignorance, delusion, or dishonesty of the person making such an assertion.
Saddam was also paying Palestinian suicide bombers families $25,000 ea. to go into Afghanistan and blow up Americans, this was most definitely an act of war. ———————————————–
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,48822,00.html
Saddam Pays 25K for Palestinian Bombers
Tuesday, March 26, 2002
By Ken Layne
Saddam Hussein is paying $25,000 to the relatives of Palestinian suicide bombers — a $15,000 raise much welcomed by the bombers’ families. In Tulkarm, one of the poorest towns on the West Bank, a member of the Palestinian Legislative Council handed out the checks from Saddam. The payments have been made for at least two years, but the amount has suddenly jumped up by $15,000 — a bonus for the families of martyrs, to reward those taking part in the escalating war against Israel. Paul McGeough, reporting from the West Bank, was the only foreign correspondent in the hall Monday night when a Palestinian official handed out the checks. McGeough’s story in today’s Sydney Morning Herald describes a very hellish twist on the Academy Awards: The men at the top table then opened Saddam’s checkbook and, as the names of 47 martyrs were called, family representatives went up to sign for checks written in U.S. dollars. (Story continues , click on the link )Below are some more obtrusive notes that never seem to hit the mainstream medis. Written in Dec 2006. Does anyone recall seeing this on your evening news ? But I’m sure you got a good shot of all the mourning mothers screaming over the body of their son that was killed by some insurgent, and I’ll bet you’ve seen your share of crying babies on Baghdad sidewalks.
Thursday, December 21, 2006 ( almost a year ago )
List of Iraq successes
BDE3TACP on AOL posted this:
“Since President Bush declared an end to major combat on May 1……(that was the “mission accomplished banner) The first battalion of the new Iraqi Army has graduated and is on active duty.
… Over 60,000 Iraqis now provide security to their fellow citizens.
… Nearly all of Iraq’s 400 courts are functioning.
… The Iraqi judiciary is fully independent.
.. On Monday, October 6, power generation hit 4,518 megawatts, exceeding the prewar average.
… All 22 universities and 43 technical institutes and colleges are open, as are nearly all primary and secondary schools.
… By October 1, Coalition forces had rehab-ed over 1,500 schools – 500 more than scheduled.
… Teachers earn from 12 to 25 times their former salaries.
… All 240 hospitals and more than 1200 clinics are open.
… Doctor’s salaries are at least eight times what they were under Saddam.
… Pharmaceutical distribution has gone from essentially nothing to 700 tons in May to a current total of 12,000 tons.
… The Coalition has helped administer over 22 million vaccination doses to Iraq’s children.
… A Coalition program has cleared over 14,000 kilometers of Iraq’s 27,000 kilometers of weed-choked canals which now irrigate tens of thousands of farms. This project has created jobs for more than 100,000 Iraqi men and women.
… We have restored over three-quarters of prewar telephone services and over two-thirds of the potable water production.
… There are 4,900 full-service telephone connections. We expect 50,000 by year-end.
… The wheels of commerce are turning. From bicycles to satellite dishes to cars and trucks, businesses are coming to life in all major cities and towns.
… 95 percent of all prewar bank customers have service and first-time customers are opening accounts daily.
… Iraqi banks are making loans to finance businesses.
… The central bank is fully independent.
… Iraq has one of the world’s most growth-oriented investment and banking laws.
… Iraq has a single, unified currency for the first time in 15 years.
… Satellite TV dishes are legal.
… Foreign journalists aren’t on 10-day visas paying mandatory and extortionate fees to the Ministry of Information for minders and other government spies.
… There is no Ministry of Information.
… There are more than 170 newspapers.
… You can buy satellite dishes on what seems like every street corner.
… Foreign journalists (and everyone else) are free to come and go.
… A nation that had not one single element — legislative, judicial or executive — of a representative government now does.
… In Baghdad alone residents have selected 88 advisory councils. Baghdad’s first democratic transfer of power in 35 years happened when the city council elected its new chairman.
… Today in Iraq chambers of commerce, business, school and professional organizations are electing their leaders all over the country.
… 25 ministers, selected by the most representative governing body in Iraq’s history, run the day-to-day business of government.
… The Iraqi government regularly participates in international events. Since July the Iraqi government has been represented in over two dozen international meetings, including those of the UN General Assembly, the Arab League, the World Bank and IMF and, today, the Islamic Conference Summit. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs today announced that it is reopening over 30 Iraqi embassies around the world.
… Shiva religious festivals that were all but banned, aren’t anymore.
… For the first time in 35 years, in Karbala thousands of Shiites celebrate the pilgrimage of the 12th Imam.
… The Coalition has completed over 13,000 reconstruction projects, large and small, as part of a strategic plan for the reconstruction of Iraq.
… Uday and Queasy are dead – and no longer feeding innocent Iraqis to the zoo lions, raping the young daughters of local leaders to force cooperation, torturing Iraq’s soccer players for losing games, or murdering critics.
… Children aren’t imprisoned or murdered when their parents disagree with the government.
… Political opponents aren’t imprisoned, tortured, executed, maimed, or forced to watch their families die for disagreeing with Saddam.
… Millions of long-suffering Iraqis no longer live in perpetual terror.
… Saudis will hold municipal elections.
… Qatar is reforming education to give more choices to parents.
… Jordan is accelerating market economic reforms.
… The Nobel Peace Prize was awarded for the first time to an Iranian
– A Muslim woman who speaks out with courage for human rights, for democracy and for peace.
.. Saddam is gone.
… Iraq is free.
….Terrorists are being drawn to an arena in which our military can kill or capture them
Sovereignty is restored to Iraq”
JMJ said;
“Too bad you conservatives never listen to us”
Whaaa ha ha ha ha ha.
That has to be the dumbest thing I’ve heard so far. Listen to you guys ?
Almost all of your congress was on board and voted to go to war, remember ?
You guys never made any alternative suggestions or presented any other options in 93 !
And then the arm chair quarterback with 20/20 hindsight says this;
” I kind of figured we’d end up stuck with that sort of option in the end anyway.”
That like when PeeWee Herman said ” I meant to do that”
4 years later and you have all the answers ? Give me a large freeking break !
BUT THIS ! This is the real winner. JMJ said;
get Iran on board, and hope some sort of modern, muslim Marshal Tito can take over and run things right for a while.
OH – MY – GOD Yea, lets let Iran take over Iraq.
They’re supplying weapons to kill our soldiers and you want them to get on board !
HEY ! I got an idea ! Maybe we could get Kim Jung Il to give the Iraqi parliament some pointers too. Heck ! Bring in Hugo Chavez too !
Go sober up would ya.