Hillary Clinton will defeat Barack Obama for the democratic nomination for President.
Anybody can back somebody when they are winning. I am prepared to throw out every piece of evidence, data, and logic, and say that Hillary will win.
Yes, I know, Obama has been racking up primary and caucus victories like they were candyin some cases by 50 percentage points. It does not matter.
Yes, I know Clinton just fired her campaign manager, and that her campaign is supposedly in turmoil and besieged by infighting. It does not matter.
Yes, Barack Obama raised 32 million dollars in one month, while Hillary Clinton had to loan her campaign 5 million of her own personal wealth to stay afloat. It does not matter.
Yes, Obama is getting all the press coverage, and it is overwhelmingly positive. Grab a bullhorn, go to the rooftop, and listen to me shout that it does not matter.
Yes, I said that the chances of Hillary losing were about as likely as the Patriots losing to the Giants in the Superbowl. Yes, the Patriots lost. It does not matter. If anything, it makes a Hillary win more likely, since there is not enough room for two feel good stories of David defeating Goliath in the same year.
Hillary will win the nomination, and Obama will lose.
So what is my evidence? Nothing more than deep feelings in my gut.
That’s it? That’s all I have to offer? No evidence?
No. No statistical evidence. Unless one counts a lifetime of victories by Bill and Hillary Clinton. That is the only statistic that matters. The numbers do not matter, except for wins and losses.
The Clintons supposedly lost the Governor’s mansion in 1980. It was just a temporary setback, and he came back two years later. They supposedly lost it all in 1994 when the republicans took over Congress. This faulty logic implied that the Clintons even cared about that. They did not care about the party. They care first and foremost about themselves, and self preservation combined with triangulation brought them easy reelection in 1996.
In 2000, Hillary moved to a state she had never lived in, and won a Senate seat. She won a landslide reelection even as voters knew she was only using them as a stepping stone to the Presidency.
This is what allows Hillary to win. There is nothing bad left to say about her. It has all been said. All the negatives are already factored in.
The people who hate her have maxed out. If anything, she might win over a small amount of them. Those who love her will fight to the death for her. People have gone to jail for this woman. They have died for her. They will do anything for her. That means anything.
Anything means destroying a man who is an image, but largely undefined.
Some speculate that Hillary will not engage in a search and destroy mission against Obama because it would decimate the party. This does not matter, because Hillary has never cared about the party. She and her husband are narcissists. If Obama has to be obliterated for a greater good, which to her means her, then so be it. Besides, the republicans would do it anyway, so she is just doing the party a favor.
I want to be wrong. I would be delighted to finally see these two political heat seeking missiles done in by their own arrogance. The Clintons claim that they want to end the politics of personal destruction. This is not possible as long as they are on the scene because they are the politics of personal destruction.
So what should republicans do?
They should stay as far away from this as possible.
Some republicans want to go after Obama hard now because they think that Hillary would be the easier general election opponent. Some conservatives are licking their chops at facing Hillary.
These people need to be drug tested. The Clintons are the same people that cleaned republican clocks in the 1990s, except that they are older and wiser. Republicans that brag that they are not afraid of the Clintons ought to pipe down and develop a healthy dose of fear.
I am screaming until I am blue in the face that Hillary can win.
As for those who want to bring down Obama, wait until the d@mn general election. Let Hillary do the worst damage. Otherwise, it will boomerang back and garat us.
I am not laying a glove on Obama. If he should somehow win the nomination, I am not going near his religion or any other nonscandals that will blow up in our faces.
Calling him “B. Hussein Obama” is childish. He is American, and was not a supporter of the former Iraqi dictator. His cocaine usage as a teenager is irrelevant. George W. Bush was not a choirboy as a teenager.
Yes, there are questions about Obama’s Pastor, but unless hard evidence emerges that Barack Obama would subvert America, this argument is a dead end. As for the Muslim angle, Obama has insisted that he is a Christian. To doubt his sincerity on the issue would be insulting. Religion should not be an issue in the campaign, be it Mitt Romney’s Mormonism, or any other candidate’s beliefs.
The race card? Out of the question.
So what is left?
How about policy. It is the last thing the media thinks about, but it matters most.
Barack Obama is an empty suit. He stands for nothing. He is a walking platitude of uselessness.
The left wants to pretend that Americans will not vote for a man that is black. Let them hurl all the insults on the planet. That is what they do anyway. It is reverse psychology, a way of bullying people into voting for somebody. Better to support an unqualified man than be a racist.
Going into the gutter against the Clintons in a general election would be easy because we would be in the gutter as soon as the campaign started. The Clintons are the gutter.
Obama has nowhere to go but down. People believe in him right now, but as soon as he lets his supports down…which he will because nobody can stay on a pedestal forever…the reaction away from him will be as rapid as his rise.
The Clintons could deck Obama’s children, take their candy, and make them cry, and James Carville would mumble, “that’s just Arkansas politics.” The republicans would get blamed.
If Obama were to survive the Clintons, it would finish them. Therefore, they will pull out all the stops. They do not need to fear blowback because they have already absorbed every possible type of hit on their character. If both candidates hit rock bottom, the Clintons will lift each other up.
The only way the republicans can win the election without being seen as racist, sexist, homophobic pigs is to make sure that all the cheap shots are within the internal confines of the democratic party. They are the ones obsessed with race and division, they just never get called on it.
Yes, it is frustrating knowing that we as republicans have to apologize for having the nerve to vote for our own candidate, a decorated war hero. If he wins, it will be because we are bigots, not because the better candidate won.
The shame in all of this is that there are so many blacks and women that are far better candidates than Obama and Hillary. Listing them could take days.
The best thing for republicans to do is to let Hillary take down Obama. Then republicans can take down the woman who took down Obama. Let Hillary sink to the level that no self respecting person would go anywhere near.
If Obama wins the nomination, the general election will be about issues, not scandals. It will be about liberalism versus conservatism, between two polite, respectful, and completely different individuals.
That is too much to ask. The media thrives on food fights.
They love Obama now, but they love winning more. That means democrats must win. Hillary Clinton has 35 years of accomplishing nothing, but she did defeat the republicans.
The media is getting ready to savage John McCain. Backing from Huckabee supporters means that McCain is backed by bible thumping knuckle draggers. Backing from Romney supporters means support from zealous cultists. Support from Giuliani backers means being supported by racial polarizers. It does not matter that McCain is a good, decent man. The vultures are awaiting to rip him apart, shred by patriotic shred.
As for Obama, it was a good ride while it lasted.
So how does one stop Hillary Clinton?
I wish I knew.
I just hope somebody in the republican camp figures it out before November.
eric
There was a sound argument riding until recently: if Obama could only win in Red States with large African American populations, while Hillary won in large Blue Bluse State with national demographics, then he could not win in November. Sure enough, Obama won in places like Georgia, while Hillary picked up places like California and New York. On the other hand, Obama’s wins in smaller Blue States like Maryland and Connecticut is telling. If he can pull off a victory in Wisconsin – that would be interesting. I think it’s too close to call now. I do not think Hillary is some inevitable, evil comic book villian.
JMJ
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Your gut is wrong this time my friend, IMHO.
Not that the black population is now convinved he has a chance, which he does, the wife of the first black president is being left behind in favor of the perhaps the first real black president. And he is winning white men. It is over.
We’ll seee where we stand in the wee hours of March 5, I think it will be over for her then, in reality if not yet numerically.
NNot should be Now; sorry.
I hope you are wrong, but unfortunately you make a lot of sense. What I hope – that Hillary loses the popular vote in the primary,and pulls some stunts at the convention, like getting the Michigan and Florida delegates included, that angers a lot of people in her own party enough that they stay home in the general election. Then McCain wins the White House…
However, if Obama takes down Hillary, and we end up with a President Obama for 4 years, it will be worth it to me if it just gets rid of the Clintons from the national scene. Obama has many flaws (including being totally wrong on the issues) but so far he has shown himself to be a much more decent and ethical person than the Clintons. I just want them gone.
I truly hope you are right… because if she is to win, with everything favoring Obama at this time, the Democratic supporters, as they are already stating, will implode as they realize THEY will not elect the nominee, but others will “select” the nominee.
I have to agree. Keep in mind that the whole Democrat media machine is owned by the Clintons, Part of setting up that machine involved the promising of favors, like White House access, to various businesspeople and publicists. If Hillary’s not the nominee, the Dems may actually have to pay cash for the top-flight publicity, legal, and research help they are getting right now on a song and a promise.
This weighs heavily on the minds of the “superdelegates” and the guys who are going to decide whether to include states like Florida.
Empty suit? You need to listen to his most recent speeches. Better yet, read the Wisconsin results next week where the blue collar under $50K group FLOCKS from Clinton to Obama.
“I have to agree. Keep in mind that the whole Democrat media machine is owned by the Clintons.”
Where do you conservatives get these silly ideas? The Clintons have no such power. It’s such a comic-bookish way of looking at things. The superdelegates are not going to split the party and turn the convention into a melee by parting with the majority. If Obama wins the regular delegates, he is going to win it all, period. I’m not saying he will, but if he does the party will not allow that sort of intermural war.
I’m not a Democrat, but man at least I have some understanding of how that party works.
Sheesh.
JMJ
JMJ,
Go to discoverthenetworks.org, and play Six Degrees of Clinton, especially when you start talking about outfits that seem to be doing a lot of pro-Democrat media relations. Hillary has been coming this way since at least 2000. In fact, were it not for the war, Hillary might have run in 2004. In the meantime, they have been doing a lot to prepare the ground for this run at the White House.
Then look at races across the country where Democrats in obscure races seem to be able to pay people to follow GOP candidates around with video cameras (macaca), and where some “unaffiliated” 527 seems to be able to find news stories unflattering to obscure GOP candidates with plausible national aspirations. George Soros can do a lot, but he can’t do all that.
JMJ;
“the party will not allow that sort of intermural war.”
The same party that put in and allowe the worst congress we’ve ever seen with a 2% approval and also put in and allowed two loser candidates to be put up front might not be able to stop any in fighting. If anything they are helping to promote it.
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Sekhmet,
The Clintons do not run the Democratic party. That’s just silly.
Micky,
If approval rating determine the best and worst of anything to you, then you’d have turned on Bush a long time ago.
JMJ
I understand why Bushs approval ratings are low. And I dont argue with them. Never did.
With 7 years of having a plate fuller than probably any president in history he has maintained 30% approval rating.
Your lovely little congress worked their way into a 2% approval rating in their first 6 months. And did “NOTHING”
This is what happens when you vote on “change” with no plan pure ideoligy and “hope”.
“Yes, there are questions about Obama’s Pastor, but unless hard evidence emerges that Barack Obama would subvert America, this argument is a dead end. As for the Muslim angle, Obama has insisted that he is a Christian”
I think basically Obama is a good guy. Its his sympathies that might exist for Muslims along whith his noted ignorance on foreign affairs that has me worried.
I still want to know why this has not been even a small subject with the media that I think needs to be at least looked at.
Does the media not want to pop the Obama bubble they have been floating infront of us for weeks now ?
“With 7 years of having a plate fuller than probably any president in history he has maintained 30% approval rating.”
ROTFLMAO!!!
Oh man. THAT was funny.
“…a plate fuller than probably any president in history”
Wow. I just don’t know what to say.
As for Obama, even our insipid popular media isn’t THAT sleazy.
JMJ
My sentiments on Bush are shared by a lot of minds greater than yours.
And even if I am wrong about Bushs work load it doesnt change the fact that the Dems have just not been making very good choices lately.
The “anything but Bush” mentallity is very irresponsable.
Obama sounds like hes coaching a high school gleed club. And they’re falling for it.
Its amazing to see the people in the audience get all lit up when he says hope and change. Its all a platitude. And the lemmings are going for it. Pipe dreams.
Obama was raised here in Hawaii. Last night was a no brainer as our local media (NBC affiliate)gave him about ten minutes of attention spanning on everything from his unwed mom and the “hard times to his school(Punahou) . Which by the way is a very exclusive private school that is not cheap at all. So times couldnt of been that hard fro him. So I dont buy this crap that he was raised in near poverty.My parents could only afford to send me during the summer. And in 72 my dad was making100,000 a year. The local station highlighted his campaign staff and the suport mechanisms in the island.
And during the whole NBC broad cast the only mention for about 15 seconds of the GOP was McCain and huckabees votes.
“My sentiments on Bush are shared by a lot of minds greater than yours.”
Nope. I’m just a regular shmuck, but there’s no way any great mind would agree with that. When you look at the history of America, and all the trial and tribulations, there’s no way anyone of sound mind would agree that Geaore W Bush had “a plate fuller than probably any president in history.” That’s just insane.
Oh, and about people of meager means travelling around – I’ve been quite amazed with their ingenuity over the years. People can be quite clever – even people who say things like “(Bush has had) a plate fuller than probably any president in history.” Poeple can be insane and clever at the same time. They can be a lot of other things too.
JMJ
Well, I’ll agree that you are insane at times.
Then we agree! :)
JMJ
Insane people are not allowed to make decisions like that.
Or vote.
Well, I’m certainly looking forward to the blog you’ll write the day after Obama wins the nomination.
P.S. Edwards is endorsing him tomorrow.
Mark.
Gosh, I wonder if Obama welcomes that endorsement.