Thank you Saxby Chambliss. In advance, thank you Norm Coleman.
Barack Obama will be forced to govern as a President, despite the media’s desire to turn him into a King.
As bad as Election 2008 was for those that value decency, it is now not hopeless.
The Democrats have 58, but they will not have 60. The republic is safe.
Saxby Chambliss easily won the Georgia runoff by a margin so wide that even Al Gore could not overturn the results. Before getting to Minnesota, it is time to look at the differences between the political parties when controversy strikes.
The 1960 Presidential Election between Richard Nixon and JFK was separated by a few dead people in Chicago. We know that there was fraud. We also know that Richard Nixon refused to contest the election. Whatever flaws he may have had upon gaining power, in 1960 he put the country above his ambitions. He spared the nation a contested election, and refused to undermine JFK when he took office.
Al Gore decided that his own ambitions superseded America. All the worthless awards that liberals give each other as compensation for lack of actual accomplishments does not change the fat that Al Gore tried to steal the 2000 Election.
Richard Nixon never questioned the legitimacy of JFK’s win. Al Gore lost a close election. Yet that was not good enough for the left, who get satiated with republican blood. First their was the Gore campaign breaking the drunk driving scandal four days before the election. If only Gore had comments regarding his own son’s driving. Then the networks called Florida for Gore before the panhandle had finished voting, depressing GOP turnout. Then came the recount.
The issue was not about a recount in Florida. A statewide recount would have been lawful. The Gore campaign wanted a selective recount in four heavily democratic areas. That was against the law. The Florida Supreme Court simply broke the law. Nonsense about “counting all the votes,” and “the interests of justice” were simply code for the differences between the parties.
Republicans are the party of laws. Democrats are the party of lawyers, and of fairness.
The law is not always fair, but without it, anarchy reigns.
The 2000 election was not just about Florida. The Missouri Senate race was just as deadlocked. Mel Carnahan died is a tragic plane crash. He was left on the ballot, which was the only legal thing to do. His wife ran in his place, but his name was on the ballot. Had it been her name the law would have been broken. Yes, perhaps the law needs to be adjusted to reflect such tragedies, but until then, the law must be followed.
By a razor thin margin, Carnahan defeated John Ashcroft. The race had plenty of voting irregularities in St. Louis, a democratic stronghold. A recount would have been mandated, except that John Ashcroft refused to ask for one.
In 2002, another plane crash took the life of Minnesota Senator Paul Wellstone. The law required that he remain on the ballot. Liberals ignored the law, insisting piously that justice required cheating. One of the most honest and respected people in Minnesota, former Vice President Walter Mondale, ran for the seat.
This was not legal. Walter Mondale should not have been allowed on the ballot. Wellstone should have remained on the ballot. The democrats found somebody unbeatable, and placed them on the ballot. Only when the democrats got heavy handed and turned Wellstone’s funeral into a political pep rally did GOP challenger Norm Coleman have life. He had pulled all of his ads, but once the backlash over the funeral occurred, he was free to campaign and win.
Republicans were not so lucky in New Jersey. Democrat Robert “The Torch” Torricelli had two talents. One was romancing celebrities, such as Bianca Jagger. The other was corruption. When one is too corrupt to be in New Jersey Government, there is no hope. Like most liberals, Torricelli believed his criminal behavior was justified. Only when the evidence was shown to be overwhelming did he resign. New Jersey law required he remain on the ballot.
The democrats simply did what they do. They found a liberal judge to invent a new eason why the law should be ignored. The democrats then again found one of the most respected members of their party, retired Senator Frank Lautenberg. Lautenberg should not have been allowed on the ballot. The deadline had passed. Yet the law was ignored, and Lautenberg won.
The democrats simply have a history of election corruption. When republicans are caught breaking the law, the party either forces them out or shuns them. Ted Stevens and Larry Craig were treated like Pariahs. Democrats love to cite David Vitter, but his situation did not involve a conviction. Mark Foley was forced to resign.
Democrats simply do not do this. Mel Reynolds had to face jail before he was fired. Eliot Spitzer is already planning his comeback. Bill Clinton is probably still mauling women in his spare time. Ted Kennedy will never face justice. William Jefferson is still in Congress. Apparently finding money in his freezer is not enough evidence.
Democrats are simply a party that will lie, cheat and steal, because to them the ends justify the means.
Now Norm Coleman is facing his second controversial election. Again, a republican victory is facing democratic corruption.
Norm Coleman won a close election by 715 votes. Al Franken managed to shrink the margin to 215 votes before the recount even started. This was similar to how Al Gore shrank the victory of George W. Bush from 1781 votes to 537. Nevertheless, Norm Coleman won the recount. It should be over.
It is not. Now Franken will follow the Gore lead and move from the protest phase to the contest phase. Several laws have already been broken.
Provisional ballots are to remain secret. Franken is demanding to know the names of those that cast provisional ballots. This is so he can steal the race in the same way the democrats stole the Gubernatorial race in Washington State in 2004.
Democrat Christine Gregoire was trailing on election night. She lost two recounts. She should have conceded. That is not how liberals work. A liberal judge ordered the names of people who cast provisional ballots to be disclosed, a violation of law. Once democratic operatives found the names. They called the people on the telephone. If the person answering the phone was a republican, the operatives hung up the phone. If the people were democrats, the operatives helped them publicly argue for their votes to be counted.
This is not “counting all the votes.” This is selective counting, just like Al Gore did in Florida. It worked. The democrats found 600 people, and a judge willing to ignore state law. Christine Gregoire became Governor.
Liberals think that republicans should just “quit whining and get over it.” That is their way of of saying, “We lied, we stole, we cheated, it worked, get over it.”
This will not happen in Minnesota. If Al Franken cannot find a corrupt liberal judge, he will have to go to the Senate. Democrats in 1984 stole a Congressional seat in Indiana for Frank McCloskey. The backlash was immense, and the Democratic Party does not want this powderkeg.
Barack Obama wants to keep his hands clean. To his credit, unlike many liberals, he actually wants to govern. He wants to do things. I disagree with some of these things, but at least he actually wants to focus on governing. A fight over the Minnesota Senate race would paralyze Washington.
If Coleman would have been the difference between 59 and 60, who knows what would have happened?
Thank the Heavens, Georgia makes this irrelevant. Ironically, a 1992 race in Georgia is why there was a recount in 2008. In 1992, Democrat Wyche Fowler had more votes than Republican Paul Coverdell. Yet Fowler was short of a majority, so a recount was held. Coverdell won. Since democrats blame the law whenever they lose, they simply changed the rules so a plurality would be enough. At least in this case they did not try to amke the change retroactive. Coverdell took his seat. Republicans changed the law back, which is why the recount occurred in 2008.
Democrats cannot ever accept losing. Something must be dishonest. Barack Obama won 52-46%, but his Electoral College victory was decisive. Democrats are claiming that as a mandate. Yet in 2000 they wanted to abolish the Electoral College for no other reason than they lost.
The only solution for republicans is to win big. Even liberals could not overturn the landslides of McGovern, Mondale, and Dukakis. Apparently Ronald Reagan winning 49 states was enough to allow him to govern.
Saxby Chambliss won in a landslide. He will be seated. This will take the steam out of the liberals and their attempt to again try to steal Minnesota.
Barack Obama will be forced to work with republicans. SOme say he has been moderate so far, but had he been given 60 Senators on his side, he would have been unrestrained.
Bill Clinton had 57 Senators, and 43 opponents led by Bob Dole forced his hand. Mitch McConnell of Kentucky will soon be the devil incarnate to liberals. He is a conservative, and he breathes air. He will want to stifle liberalism. He will be despised by the frothy left, which has not let an election victory dampen their rage. Mitch McConnell will ensure that 2008 does not become a permanent majority.
McConnell now has help. Saxby Chambliss has come to the rescue, and Sarah Palin was apparently more popular on the campaign trail than rapper Ludacris.
The GOP needs to threaten to filibuster every piece of legislation unless Norm Coleman is seated. Al Franken must never be allowed to take that seat.
For once in their miserable thieving lives, democrats will be forced to accept the rule of law. Norm Coleman won on election night, and he won the recount.
It is over. Norm Coleman won. No amount of judicial corruption should alter this.
America is a better place today because Georgia and Minnesota came through in a tough year.
The democrats have cheated long enough. Al Franken will become Senator over my cold, dead political body.
I am not going anywhere, except to congratulate reelected Senator Norm Coleman.
Next time Mr. Coleman, do what Mr. Chambliss did. Do us all a favor. Find the liberal and kick his hide. It saves time and money, and avoids controversy.
Well done Senator Chambliss. Georgia saved the GOP and the country in 1992. May Paul Coverdell rest safely in Heaven, knowing that the people of Georgia have again gotten it right in 2008.
eric
“As bad as Election 2008 was for those that value decency…”
Ladies and gentlemen… 52% of the elctorate apparently doesn’t “value decency.”
JMJ
They didn’t vote out of decency.
They voted out of blind hatred against a man who couldn’t be re elected if he tried. McCain was not George W Bush and Obamas ties to McCains votes along side Bush were out of context and never explained in just.
At least McCain had a voice and did not vote “present” the majority of the time.
The ones that made the difference for Obama were not the “decent ones”.
They were the racist, the anti American freeloaders looking for a handout that were banking on promises that so far have been broken and will continue to be broken.
Obama will not pay their mortgages, the tax brackets will change as they have kept changing for months now, there will be insufficient taxable revenues to pay anything he has promised.
The goose that was supposed to lay this golden egg and pay for most of it was the ending of our efforts in Iraq, the military being brought home and shrunk to Clinton era stats.
Well, that’s not going to happen because during Obamas first security briefing he got a lesson in reality and so now withdrawals have gone from “immediately” to “6 months” to “a year” to “16 months” and now , after his security briefing it has become “I will listen to the advice of the commanders”
I guess in way we should be thankful that all these so called “decent ” freeloaders wont be getting their gift bag as a trade off for our security and our soldiers having dignity reflected in their efforts.
I pray that Stuart Smally loses to Coleman simply due to the fact the he is one of the most “Undecent” people on the face of the earth and should be ridiculed, tarred and feathered and let loose in public to be seen for the cowardly mean , vindictive, whiney little pr*ck that he is.
How anyone can concieve this man being office after the vulgar exchanges he has had on the radio with the likes of Janine Garafolo and her ilk is beyond me.
Micky, Obama and the Dems won big because a majority of the American electorate do not believe it is “decent” to rape the citizens and taxpayors for unending wars of aggressive empire, to favor the very wealthy at every turn in every way against the best interest of the people, to ignore the health and well-being of the institutional and physical infrastructure of the nation, and to act with indifference to corruption run amok in corporate America. Americans voted for decency, alright, and disavowed the disgusting indecence of the Republican party. Georgia did as Georgia always does. To hell with them. They won’t be getting any favors over the next some-odd years. Ha. Ha. Minnesota is still too close to call, but with majority Democratic areas yet to be counted, and given the closeness of the race, there’s a good chance Franken will win. The GOP is back in the backwoods for now. That’s where they made their bed and that’s where they’re going to sleep.
JMJ
So you say, so what ?
Its a fact that Obama used Bush against McCain to the point that people voted against the premise of more of the same under Bush, McCain being the proxy.
That decency you speak of is already in the crapper as Obama is ready to rape anyone he thinks doesnt deserve their own money.
The numbers and timelines keep changing.
This is a FACT.
I call the party who voted for Obama what they are based on the facts.
He was voted for by a majority of blacks simply because he is black. FACT.
He was voted for by a majority that thought they would get bailed out of bad mortgages. FACT.
What you got is nothing but hot air. “every turn” and bla bla more exagerated and untrue, unsubstatiated hateful, bias garbage leftist talking points that you have never been able to prove like the question I asked you from 3 – 4 days ago that couldnt answer because you know how stupid it would make your question look.
Obama and the Dems were right to compare McCain to Bush. The fact of the matter is that McCain, for all his “maverick” rhetoric, shares a lot of political stands with Bush. One of the issues that hurt McCain in this regard was deregulation. McCain has always been a vociferous deregulator, as Bush. Sure enough, laizzez faire deregulatory policy led to the usual boom and bust cycle, the cycle busted, and McCain’s deregulatory reputation hurt him.
As for your “facts”…
I have no idea what you mean about your first “fact.”
If McCain was black he would not have garnered much more of the black vote. Obama is barely even regarded as “black” in the black community. That “fact” is nonsense, and would only make you seem a little racist if I didn’t know you better.
There is no record of who voted which way with bad mortgages. That’s just a lie.
“Every turn” seems quite true to me. I’ve never seen an example of Bush and the GOP standing up for the little guy against the bugs guys. Ever. If you have an example, I’d be happy to see it.
JMJ
“Obama and the Dems were right to compare McCain to Bush. The fact of the matter is that McCain, for all his “maverick” rhetoric, shares a lot of political stands with Bush.”
No, they were hypocritical as no credit was given for the surge, which even many of Obama fellow dems acknowledged had worked, nor did they pay attention or mention during the campaign the issues they have in common that the two of them most recently decided to work on together.
All he did was take advantage of BDS and so called “failed policies” that McCain had little to do with.
“One of the issues that hurt McCain in this regard was deregulation. McCain has always been a vociferous deregulator, as Bush. Sure enough, laizzez faire deregulatory policy led to the usual boom and bust cycle, the cycle busted, and McCain’s deregulatory reputation hurt him.”
Thats a lie, once again, it was McCain who went to the hill to ask for regulation to be applied to the boom that was created by Clinton and Carter, Fanny and Freddy, Dodd and Frank, Obama and Schumer, and Pelosi and Reid.
“That “fact” is nonsense, and would only make you seem a little racist if I didn’t know you better.
I am not racist because I point out racism. Grow up.
Obama recieved 96% of the black vote, seeing as how 52 % of the country voted for him on a array of issues its safe and logical to say that 52 % of the 96% of that voted for Obama , voted on the same array of issues.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/04/exit.polls/
“Those who said race was an important factor voted 55 percent to 44 percent in favor of Obama. But Obama also was the winner by a similar margin among those who said race was not important, “which suggests that race was not a decisive factor in this election,” Schneider said.”
So, this makes my point that there were just as many racist votes as there were non racist votes.
Had a small majority of these people that voted issues instead of race there would of been a difference of a few points, maybe enough, to put McCain up a couple digits.
Also, seeing as how McCain only got 3% of the black vote it follows logic race played a huge role in the black vote.
I’m not saying it was hatred of whites, but percieved favortism of blacks in the form of entitlements coming from the black candidate.
Face it, it was said many times by many people in many interviews with no attention given to issues.
So many people were hung up on the idea of having our first black president, nothing else mattered.
That, is a racist vote based on the ideology of showing the world just how diverse we can be without even caring if the man was qualified or not.
Hmmm… I guess if it was fair to place McCain next to Bush you shouldnt of had such a big problem with Obama being placed next to numerous crooks and radicals who never did a thing for our country except for put it down, bomb it and hate it.
Not something I’ve ever known Bush to do.
JMJ;
“There is no record of who voted which way with bad mortgages. That’s just a lie.
Actually, you’ve been caught in a lie.
There are records of votes concerning housing and mortgage regulations all over the net.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0JZS/is_17_24/ai_n28027488?tag=content;col1
No one can vote on a “mortgage that went bad” thats just plain arrogantly stupid abuse of the english language and a ridiculous interpretation of what I was saying.
But, there are definitley records of who started this whole mess. And that initial process involved HUNDREDS of votes that resulted in bad mortgages.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2127214/posts
“The crashed economy via the CRA was started by Carter, strengthened by Clinton and re-formulated by the 2005 Congress. Chicago figures in the beginning stages of this act.
In the 1970s, activists in Chicago and across the country brought strong pressure on banks to lend equitably to all those in their communities. Since its passage, the CRA has been used across the United States to win tens of billions of dollars in new lending, investments, and services for communities. The National Community Reinvestment Coalition tracks more than $1 trillion dollars in community reinvestment pledges nationally. These pledges are explicit investments in equitable development goals, and finance many tools in this toolkit. ”
Seeing as how you have refered to our soldiers as the little guys its safe to say that BUsh has stood up for them along with the GOP a hell of a lot better than the left has.
Shall we start with funding ?
By offering tax relief to companies that actually employ “little guys” they’ve done plenty.
I seem to remember a whole bunch of checks getting mailed to all the “little guys” last year also.
I could go on, but why battle ignorance ?
If the surge was successful we’d be out of there by now. All the surge did was buy some time.
McCain has a long history of being anti-regulation.
The Democrat in this election would have garnered almost as much of the African American vote as Obama. Polls showed Hillary would have done just as well. The fact is that Obama was not only representing a race, but representing it’s best interest at the polls. Anyone who thinks otherwsie must then assume that black people are just stupid and vote for whoever just happens to be black even though history shows that is completely incorrect.
There are no data siting how people in foreclosure voted.
Anyone who believes the mortgage crisis was the result of equal opportunity lending is wrong.
JMJ
“If the surge was successful we’d be out of there by now. All the surge did was buy some time.”
“All the surge did”?
It did much more than that, but lets start with what I believe is the one most important thing.
Gee, I guess its too much to expect liberals to acknowledge that the surge saved lives, no doubt.
Who ever said it was intended to end the war ?
As a matter of fact, buying time was one of the intended consequences.
Soooooooo, thank you for making my point for me.
Yes, most cons have a record of being against regulation, thats a good thing in my book.
The fact of the matter is that a system derived by liberals is what needed regulating and that McCain plainly saw the perfect storm brewing and made attempts to stop it..
You have seen evidence of this in transcripts from congressional hearings that I have shown you.
Its fact.
You yourself have admitted that racism is alive and well, said yourself he was representing a race, yet out of ignorance you deny it exists at the polls, or is it only the white man who is racist ?
You yourself have also stated that if Obama were a white man he would stand an even better chance of winning.
And of course, lets not forget the guilty white liberals who thought it was their duty to elect a black man into office regardless of qualifications, but only to promote diversity.
I myself ran into about ten of em last year.
Jersey, your arguments of convenience are all too predictable and although its hard to find a poll that specfically asks if you’d vote simply out of race I have you on record saying it happens with whites.
It works both ways, there is the Bradley effect, which today is not as prevelant and has shown to be a dying trend which only means that we are as a country seeing race as a factor less and less.
But there are still those out there that just wont pull the lever for a black man, as much as they say they would.
So why is it for the sake of your arguement you insist that no black man would simply vote for a black man based on race alone ?
“AP-Yahoo News poll suggests that racial prejudice could cost Obama up to 6 percentage points this fall. That’s a big hurdle in a nation whose last two presidential elections were decided by much smaller margins.”
Oh, but theres no racism/prejudice that could help him ?
Anyone who believes that, as McJones would say; is either “stupid or crazy”
“Anyone who believes the mortgage crisis was the result of equal opportunity lending is wrong. ”
Misleading answer, again.
It was not a result of equal opprtunity lending.
It was a result of giving mortgages to those who should not of had the opportunity at all.
Wheres the equality in forcing banks to loan money to high risk borrowers ?
The entitlement freak is who voted for Obama, it stands to reason, he had more freebeees on the table.
No one can deny that.
““If the surge was successful we’d be out of there by now.”
Also, the sooner you guys realize that we arent going anywhere, nor did we ever intend to. The sooner you’ll all stop your whining about withdrawl dates and occupation and empires and all that crap and realize it was all a strategic ploy to place ourselves right smack where we needed to be.
I’ve still never gotten over that Lautenberg thing. I’d previously viewed Democrats as wrong, but that and the Al Gore selective recount made me realize that cheating is an institutionalized attitude for Democrats. Some call it politics; you win by whatever means you can. I call it breaking the law in full view of the public and not caring that they’re getting caught. I’m so tired of Republicans forcing out those who do something with even an appearance of wrongdong, Trent Lott, while Democrats don’t, pick any name. Remember how Democrats howled about DeLay trying to get his name off the ballot in Texas? They knew their best chance of winning was to keep his name there. They didn’t play by New Jersey rules then.
Oh, well. Just have to beat them by a wide enough margin that they can’t cheat, as Hugh Hewitt says.
Bah, most right-wingers had McCain like 4th or 5th on their list early in the Republican Primary anyway, so when I see them so deeply defending him, I find it, well, not quite hypocritical, I guess just funny.
But as far as Georgia and Minnesota, I guess the Republicans are gonna be invited to some late-night Congress Rock Band parties. Good thing too, someone needs to take Stevens’ place as the vocalist for Team Awesome.
Whatever helps get those who didn’t vote for Obama a little more optimistic about the country, everyone needs to be lookin forward for anything to happen.