There were two problems with the CNN Compassion Forum.
First of all, short of Campbell Brown frolicking on stage in her underclothing, there really is no reason to watch CNN. They have not had intelligent debate questions since the respected Bernard Shaw retired.
Second of all, even if Campbell Brown were to do her best Eva Longoria imitation, it would pale compared to the real thing. Desperate Housewives was back on television with new episodes. Even Sean Hannity and his Hannity’s America program had to be put on the back burner. Of course, had it been football season, none of the non-Eva stuff would have mattered anyway.
Nevertheless, thanks to tivo, I was able to watch the democrats fake compassion. I tivoed Desperate Housewives since nothing about the compassion forum was expected to be worth keeping.
Also, several commercials during the event were by an organization called “Divided we fail.” It spoke of unifying people to fix problems, and showed an animal that was half elephant, half donkey. It sounded nice, but make no mistake about it. Divided we fail is a project of the AARP, which is a liberal partisan organization that is responsible for screwing up the futures of their own members by being hostile towards a partial privatization of Social Security. Their method of compromise is to threaten republicans and non-liberal democrats, and these threat work. They divide people, and we fail as a result.
As for the event, In all fairness, some of the questions were well thought out, and the answers were sometimes appropriate. The format was also appropriate. Each candidate had about 45 minutes to answer questions, and Hillary and Obama were on the stage separately. There were no buzzers, and expansive answers made both discussions worthwhile. Yet the admission that some of the questions had nothing to do with policy did not make them any less useless.
Hillary was asked about the controversy over Obama’s remarks about those who turn to guns and religion because they are bitter.
Hillary stated that she would let Obama speak for himself, but implied that he was elitist and out of touch. Hillary very wisely pointed out that many Americans felt that about the democratic party as a whole. What she did not say was that this feeling was largely justified. Nevertheless, lip service may or may not be better than overt hostility . Others can decide.
When pressed further, Hillary simply stated that his remarks “raised concerns.” Hillary very wisely remarked that the democratic candidates in 2000 and 2004 were good men, but were perceived as hostile towards voters of faith.
Hillary was then asked a meaningless question about when she felt the trinity in her life. She answered the question in a sincere manner, and my criticism was not with the candidates, but the fact that any of these questions have to be asked. They don’t.
One comment Hillary made was that her faith allowed her to “make decisions when nobody else agreed with me.” That seems to be a quality that she would criticize President Bush for. When she spoke about the positive aspects of politics, and how faith connects to that, was quite eloquent.
Hillary ironically stated that “not every moment of grace is about me.” One perception of her is her narcissism. She repeatedly states that the election is not about her, and the more she says it, the more it rings hollow.
She was then asked about how faith affects ehr ability to make life and death decisions.
This time she was very solid in her answer. She spoke of relying on others. She sounds sincere except when she makes statements such as “I don’t even pretend to know the answers to a lot of questions.” Hillary is known as somebody that is certain of her point of view. On Iraq she said that “there is no easy decision.” This may seem simplistic, but it is truthful. SHe seemed less honest when she said she likes being challenged by people who disagree with her. It would be helpful if she did. Again, this is my perception, but that perception has been through observing her over time. She then stated that she would “hope that she would never become defensive or dismissive with those who disagree with her.” Again, she seemed to be addressing a direct criticism of her.
Her answer to the abortion question of whether life begins at conception was pure Clintonian at its worst. She stated that “the potential for life begins at conception.”
If ever there was a sentence that defined a major criticism of the Clintons, it was “the politics of parsing.” She then spoke that she did not want “an intrusion of government into our society” with regards to abortion. Apparently on health care and virtually every other domestic issue she does not hold such concerns.
She then cleverly shifted to her criticism of China forcing women into having abortions against their will, as if any American politician is in favor of it. Talk about abortion on demand!
The question about euthanasia started out promising when Hillary started talking about the complicated situation of Terry Schaivo. Yet Hillary simply would not take a stand. She meandered about how there were good people on both sides of the issue. She does not want government intruding, but wants us to “create a process” for families to make decisions. There is no need to create a process for families to make decisions. Simply leaving them alone is a better substitute for any government process. I wish Hillary grasped this.
Hillary was then lobbed a softball about how to ease the conern among some that religion has too powerful a role in America. The answer is for those that are bigoted towards religious people to simply stop being bigoted.
Hillary took a more tactful tone, calling for respect and tolerance on all sides.
Rabbi Steve Gutow of the Council for Public Affairs had a chance to aska question of relevance to Jews. Did he ask about Israel or Islamofacism? Of course not, that would make this an honest religious discussion. Instead he made me again be embarrassed by liberal Jews by babbling about Darfur and whether or not President Bush should boycott the opening Olympics ceremonies due to China’s treatment of Tibet.
This Rabbi does not represent me!
Hillary favors President Bush boycotting the opening ceremonies. She is wrong. Several Palestinian homicide bombers tried to kill Jews while this idiotic question was being answered.
Reverends, Priests and Imams stick up for their own interests. It boggles my mind why liberal Rabbis can’t grow a pair and ask questions that benefit us.
A question about how to get low cost drugs for the poor allowed Hillary to brag about voting against CAFTA. Of course, she is completely wrong on this issue. She then offered feint praise about how drug companies save lives, but quickly made sure to state that they must do more. This is based on her 35 years of experience of not working at a drug company.
She was then asked in relation to Darfur why a loving God allows people to suffer.
The stupidity of the question notwithstanding, Hillary handled it perfectly. She was genuinely funny whe she said, “I don’t know, I can’t wait to ask him.” At least she admits God is male!
If Hillary were to handle all questions the way she answered this one, she would be seen as likable, genuine…and human. She nailed this one spectacularly.
As fabulous as she was on that question, she was equally disingenuous on the next question. She was asked about her favorite bible story.
She mentioned the recent Jewish holiday of Purim, which she mispronounced “Pyurim.” She stated that she loved the story of Esther, and read it often as a child. I’m sorry, but growing up Methodist means she most likely went to churches, where they do not teach about Jewish stories such as Esther. Yes, Jesus was Jewish, but outside of Judaism, Esther is obscure. Her comment seemed like a sop to Jewish voters.
She was then asked if we could make changes on issues such as global climate change without hurting our lifestyles. The answer is no.
Nevertheless, she spoke about small changes such as using better light bulbs. It was a carefully calibrated answer. In fact, she mentioned that people should “not feel threatened” by changes. Of course they feel threatened, and justifiably so. She stated that the Vatican was carbon neutral. I have no idea if this is true, but praising the Vatican at a forum like this is smart.
A very intelligent question was asked on whether or not Hillary would commit troops to places like Darfur under a foreign command. The ansswer should have been “absolutely not.” I would include an expletive in my answer.
Hillary totally ducked the question, perhaps because the “global test” question hurt John Kerry in 2004. She did praise President Bush regarding the tsunami in Asia, especially since he tapped her husband. Hillary did correctly point out that America’s favorability went through the roof after the tsunami, but it was because of the generosity of ordinary Americans, not the government. She acknowledged that “the military can be helpful” in certain situations. How generous of her.
An absolutely idiotic question about whether God wanted her to be President was handled very brilliantly. She cited Abraham Lincoln, and spoke about what motivates her. On these types of questions, she appears very genuine.
Barack Obama then came out to a rousing ovation, and he shook Hillary’s hand as she exited the stage.
The first question to Obama dealt with his smugness, although it was phrased in a nicer way. He was asked why he referred to bitter people who turn to religion and guns.
He insisted that he did not mean to demean anybody. He also said people were misconstruing his words. By misconstruing I guess he means taking him literally.
When asked about Hillary referring to him as elitist, he said that this was an example of politics tearing people down.
On an unrelated note, liberal blowhard Bob Beckel had stated earlier in the evening that based on the way they were mistreated in society, black people could not be elitist.
When asked about God intervening in history, Obama properly made it clear that he did not understand God’s plan, but tried to live a good life.
An abortion softball was delivered to Obama, in the form of being asked if there was common ground. The loudspeakers then began to blare the Beatles singing, “Come Together, right now, over me.” Just kidding. Obama did handle the question well, but again, it was a softball. He did talk about adoption and other issues, but made it clear there was a chance the issue might not be resolved. In fact, when he said “adoption is an option,” Jesse Jackson must have been upset that he did not think of the adoption rhyme first.
He was then asked a tougher abortion question, that being whether or not life begins at conception.
He said that he had no idea. Given that this was a forum about beliefs, he could have stated his position.
When asked about euthanasia, he again ducked. However, his point that all Americans should have a living will was a valid and important point. I am amazed that I do not recall a candidate mentioning that before. He stated that terminally ill people should get medicine to “relieve their pain.” When Campell Brown tried to infer that relieving pain meant ending life, Obama would not acknowledge that.
A Southern Baptist Minister stated that an abstinence based and faith based program reduced AIDS in Africa, and wanted Obama’s views.
Obama did praise President Bush’s faith based initiatives with regards to trying to save lives. Obama offered various ideas in a comprehensive approach, but again would not address the abstinence program. At some point he would answer a question, but perhaps not on this night. One valid point he made that needs to be repeated by democrats is that there is a “human element to this problem.” He could have stopped at that point, but he specifically mentioned promiscuity. He could have spoken about drug users as well, and the fact that AIDS is rising again in the homosexual community, but based on the low standards democrats have set, his answer was courageous for criticizing anybody.
When asked about a comment he made about his daughter being “punished with a baby,” Obama deftly answered the question by pointing out his daughters were 9 and 6. He made it clear that if his daughter got pregnant at age 12 or 13, it would be a mistake, and that women at that age having babies is harmful for the mothers and children. It was an appropriate answer, and he plainly stated that “children screw up.”
A pointless question about God creating the world in 6 days was answered in a dignified manner.
Obama then did something bold, which is not his nature. He could have left the answer as it was, but instead decided to emphasize his belief in evolution, and that it was compatible with his Christian faith. The answer was fine, and again given surprising how cautious Obama normally is.
Obama was then asked how he reconciles both evolution and religious faith, as it relates to climate change and stem cell research.
He very smartly talked about how Genesis teaches us to be good stewards.
Obama was asked about Pastor Jeremiah Wright, but the question was a complete softball. Rather than be asked about the controversies, Obama was asked how Pastor Wright brought him closer to God.
His answer was thoughtful, and poignant. He listed the positive things that his church was doing. Obama then tried to state that while Reverend Wright was his pastor, that was not the same as a spiritual adviser. While this is baloney, Obama stated that the controversial comments do not detract from the good works that the church does. This is wrong. If the KKK were to help cure AIDS, it would not change the fact that they are racists. Obama still has not figured this issue out.
Obama was asked how his exposure to Islam as a child shaped him. He responded by stating that when he lived in Indonesia as a child, he attended Catholic school. Additionally, Indonesia at the time was a secular and tolerant nation. Islam can be compatible with the modern world, and work with Judaism and Christianity to improve the world.
Obama was asked if he would commit to cutting poverty in America in half in 10 years. Obama stated that he would absolutely make that commitment. While I cannot imagine how he could do it, the fact that he believes he can is either naive or admirable. I will go with admirable since cynicism does not help anybody. He tied the issue into fixing America economically. One can disagree with Obama’s prescriptions, and I do, but he did articulate his goals well with regard to domestic initiatives ranging from health care to education. He also stated that he wanted to keep the office of faith based initiatives open. In an ironic moment, he emphasized the importance of humility, especially given his recent perceived pompousness.
Obama was then asked about how quickly we can surrender in the war on terror. The actual words of the questioner dealt with torture.
Not only did Obama state that he was against torture, but he also stated that he would not “farm out or subcontract torture.” That means we cannot hand a guy over to another country knowing they might deal with him in a harsher manner than we would.
The last question was the same softball asked earlier, about religion had too much power in American life today. Obama was very deft on this one.
He stated that many democrats were bad on religious issues. He then stated the republicans were guilty in the other direction. It was a way of being above politics, and he straddled the line successfully. He warned against self righteousness, and was lucky there were no mirrors around.
This was a tough one to call in terms of the winner. As I have said before, the debate premise itself was worthless.
Obama was bland. He offended nobody, but was less inspirational than he has been in the past.
Hillary had moments of brazen insincerity. She reminded me why she has so many people that dislike her with such a ferocity. Yet she had other moments of incredible sincerity, and during those moments was better than I had ever seen her.
Given that this was a forum for democrats, Hillary’s negative moments will be glossed over, while her positives will pleasantly surprise people, especially if she can keep it up. I suspect she cannot, and look for her to go on the attack in the Pennsylvania debate on the 16th.
Nevertheless, Obama was simply boring tonight. He has had many good nights, and this was not one of them. He did not do himself any harm, and will most likely be livelier on the 16th.
If anybody won this evening, it would be Hillary, albeit slightly. It was just a tad better for her than a draw.
eric