Iowa is irrelevant. New Hampshire is useless. New York City is what matters, since that is where the giant crater exists along with the memories of 3000 murdered new Yorkers.
I am working out of my firm’s Wall Street office this week, and there is a television and a computer here in the break room, allowing me to watch the Fox news republican debate while blogging about it.
Just around the block is the New York Stock Exchange, where people can no longer go on the trading floor as guests. Those days are long gone.
I just got back from Ground Zero several minutes ago, or 15 minutes before the debate began. It is one thing to read about it. it is another thing to be there. I was walking with my friend, who was right there when it happened in 2001. He said a prayer to God that he would live, and he did.
I well up with rage every time I see the memorial. I will never forget.
The republican debate is not about gay marriage, stem cell research, African American vegeterianism, or any other narrow issue that affects a select few disproportionately.
Let the democrats debate nonsense.
The republicans need to spend time eplaining how they are going to kill every animal that is even remotely connected to the barbarians that took down the towers.
We have made significant progress, but there is more to do.
With that, I bring the 2008 republican debate from South Carolina.
While we are watching television, Al Queda is plotting more murders.
Here is the recap Between Rudy Giuliani, John McCain, Mitt Romney, Fred thompson, Mike Huckabee, and another fellow I will mention when necessary.
Brit hume, Carl Cameron, Wendell Goler, and Chris Wallace were the moderators. The first question dealt with whether we were in a recession, and what should be done.
Romney reiterated his record. At the Federal level, he mentioned the housing crisis, lower taxes, gas prices, and research and development in science and technology. he got in a jab at McCain by saying that the Senator stated jobs in Michigan were gone forever, which Romney disagreed.
McCain stuck to his guns, saying some jobs were gone forever. He mentioned going to community colleges and designing new training programs. He does not believe we are headed into a recession.
When asked about short term government fixes with regards to a slowdown, and would he be ok with adding to the deficit, he mentioned cutting spending, and using Detroit to develop technologies to reduce foreign oil dependency. He said he would make the authors of earmarks famous.
Huckabee was asked about his short terms stimulus package. He spoke of four problems, that being fuel prices, subprime mortgages, health care and education costs. he mentioned the fair tax.
Giuliani was asked about his wanting to cut taxes despite others saying that tax cuts do not pay for themselves. Giuliani cited Ronald Reagan, President Bush, JFK, and the Club For Growth. We have the second highest corporate tax rate in the world. He spoke of cutting federal agencies, and regulatory reform. overtaxing, spending, regulating and suing must be stopped.
McCain agreed, but stated that we have to cut spending as well. He wants to make the bush tax cuts permanent.
When asked about a government program to stimulate the economy, Ron Paul said that recession is predictable. He stated that the housing market is in a depression, and that we had artificially low interest rates are a mistake by causing a bubble and then a bust.
Thompson stated that Rudy’s tax plan was one he proposed a couple months ago, and that the tax cuts always bring in more revenue than the experts say. The entire housing market is hurting, not just subprime. Credit is getting tighter, and we have two handed economists because nobody knows. We have to count on the Fed, possibly speed up depreciation schedules. We have to consider a low income stimulus like in 2001, but a rebate would not work because the poor do not pay taxes.
Huckabee was asked what part of the Reagan coalition was gone, based on comments by Ed Rollins. He disputed that being said, and started talking about abortion and gay marriage, in addition to the Second Amendment. He stated that that was a part of the Reagan Coalition.
McCain stated that republicans have drifted from Reagan, especially since 1994. He mentioned the bridge to nowhere, and then mentioned Teddy Roosevelt and climate change.
Romney covered abortion services in his Massachussetts plan for health care. He stated that was a court order. He stated that Reagan’s principles are still valid today, and his optimism was vital. We need a strong military, strong families, and a strong economy. our economy is still the envy of the world.
Thompson went after Huckabee. He would be a social conservative but economic liberal. he mentioned gitmo, and the NEA endorsement. He mentioned huckabee wanting to ban smoking, which violates Federalism. It was a sharp attack, and the crowd roared.
Huckabee stated he is under attack because he is the target. He mentioned thst Reagan raised taxes, which is true, but not an excuse for being a tax raiser.
Giuliani was asked why he was the complete conservative. He mentioned peace through strength, and lower taxes specifically to empower people. He supports a strong national defense. We must devolve power to the people. Disagreements about social issues should not trump being competitive in 50 states, including states we do not even try to win any more. We need a broad outreach.
Ron Paul was asked about the 9/11 truthers, and whether we were responsible 9/11. He said he disagreed with them, but would not ask them to stop. he is now officially Rupaul for good. He stated we are no longer fiscal conservatives. We are big government people. We are entitlement people. We have undermined the Fourth Amendment. he has never voted to spend a penny of the social security fund.
Huckabee was asked by our passive response to Iran with regards to not shooting our ships this week. He stated they would “face the gates of hell,” if they tried to shoot, but that he trusted the current president’s decision not to attack. Brit hume delved further, but Huckabee stood his ground and said he trusted the generals.
Thompson agreed with Huckabee on this one, and that one more step and they would have “been introduced to those virgins that they were looking forward to seeing.” the crowd roared. Thompson brought up the british military hostage crisis, and said that if Iran crosses the line, they will be destroyed. He also offered some red meat to the crowd by pointing out that “You can tell that the news coming out of Iraq is good, because you read so little about it in te New York Times.”
Giuliani quickly rejected the NIE report stating that iran was benign. He mentioned that iran was collapsing economically, and that we should push them further.
McCain was asked what he would do if he were the captain of the ship, and he refused to armchair quarterback despite his naval experience. He agreed with Giuliani that people think Iran is seen as less of a threat due to the NIE report, which is a major mistake. Like the other candidates, he supported President Bush’s decision.
Rupaul urged caution, brought up the Gulf of Tonkin, and said we were ready to start World War III. Some in the administration are looking for the chance, and that there have been no attempts to avoid war.
Hume stated that the other candidates agreed with the passive response, so what as he upset about?
He responded that we were itching to bomb Iran.
(I hope he is right…we should)
Romney claimed that Rupaul should stop reading Armageddonijad’s press releases. The crowd roared, and the Rupaul supporters booed. He backed Bush, and stated that we need new sanctions against Iran.
McCain was asked about the surge working. McCain shined at this point. He ordered Hillary to retract her comments about General David petraeus, who should have been Time’s man of the Year. Only when we win can men come home with honor.
Giuliani was asked about how to prevent a Palestinian state from being a haven for terrorism. First they must recognize Israel’s right to exist. Then they must renounce terrorism. Then there must be a period of time. Giuliani politely disputed McCain’s claim that he was the only one to support the surge. Giuliani said neither of them have wavered. McCain stated that only he condemned the Rumsfeld strategy, which is a separate issue.
Rupaul stated that the USA gets in the way with regards to Israel and the Arabs, and that we should cease giving foreign aid to all nations. Israel can handle its own problems.
McCain got tough, saying that he did not want to trade with AL Queda, all they trade is burkas. He does not want tot ravel with them, they only want one way tickets.
Rupaul went ballistic, and i wa slooking for the German subtitles. He said mcCain wants us to be in Iraq for 100 years.
McCain replied that we have dramatically reduced casualties, and that we should support the troops, not condemn them. We have been in korea for 50 years, but nobody is dying. It is prescence, not casualties.
When asked about how we can side with Musharraf when 2/3 of the people want him gone, Thompson responded, “We can’t go against polls.” The crowd laughed. Leadership is not giverning by polling. He stated that calling for Musharraf to step down or cut off aid was irresponsible. He nailed it perfectly. We should pressure Musharraf to help with finding Osama bin laden, but not kid ourselves into trying to replace him without consequences. We also needed to secure the weapons.
Romney stated that foreign policy is now 3 dimensional chess, not checkers.While Romney mentioned various hot spots, he spoke coolly,while Thompson seemed much more passionate. Romney did mention getting Islamic countries away from Wahhabism, and helping their economies.
Huckabee, whena sked about accounting showing money was missing, reiterated that pushing Musharraf out was not the solution. Huckabee forgot that he was the one who advocated replacing him to begin with. Huckbee then admonished Rupaul over Israel, and promised to defend the Jewish state.
Rupaul stated that we undermine Israeli sovereignty, especially by arming Arab nations. We should treat Israel like adults, and that he defended the israeli decision to bomb the Osirak reactor in 1982. he stated israel is a stepchild of the USA.
Rudy ripped into Rupaul, and stated that the defense of Israel is smart for the USA. They are one of our staunchest reliable allies. As for Pakistan, we should work with musharraf.
Thompson stated that Huckabee mentioned our aid to the Pakistani military. Thompson said that is what the money is for, that we should support the Pakistani military.
While anybody ripping into Rupaul was on target, Thompson ripping into Huckabee was highly effective. The battle for social conservatives is between these two, and Thompson shredded him, without much of a counter response.
Romney was asked about change, and whether voters preferred experience. Romney replied, “nope.” he repeated that “Washington is broken,” and that nothing gets done. He then rattled off several examples, and stated that his career has been about change. “He would take Washington apart and bring it back together.”
When asked about Romney stating that McCain is Washington, McCain stated that “the answer was obvious.” McCain said his biggest change was to support the surge in iraq. He went after the democrats on Iraq, not Romney. He then mentioned going after Washington insiders such as Jack Abramoff, and the Defense Department’s bloated budget.
Huckabee was asked about higher taxes and more government while being a governor. He replied that “he got the job done.” H ethen ofered an incredibly rehearsed line about how what he raised was “hope.” he became Barack Huckabee Obama. He stated that Arkansas did not have falling bridges because he took care of them. People in Minnesota might be offended by that.
Thompson was asked how he differed from Huckabee. He pointed out that Huckabee signed the tax pledge only under pressure. Fred then focused on his own record, including passing five tax reductions. He mentioned his 100% pro-life voting record, but that does not differ from Huckabee.
Huckabee pointed out that Congress passed welfare reform, but Governors had to implement it.
Giuliani was asked about McCain’s comments that 9/11 is not foreign policy experience. he started out by saying that the change the democrats want is the change coming out of our pockets. Socialized medicine, and pulling out of Iraq were negative changes. Change itself can be good or bad. As for foreign policy, Giuliani was on a terrorism task force when Gerald Ford was President. He then reiterated throwing out arafat and snubbing the Saudi prince’s blood money. Senators are one out of 100, executives are leaders.
McCain praised Rudy as a person, but stated that it was McCain himself who has been a part of every foreign policy situation in the last 30 years.
Huckabee was asked about supporting an ad in the paper asking women to obey their husbands. Huckabee claimed that he was getting all the religious questions. it is because he keeps bringing it up. He got folksy and praised his strong wife. He then stated that his personal beliefs were not how he would govern. We should all submit to the lord. Marriage is 100/100, not 50/50.
Rupaul, with regards to electability was asked, “Do you have any?” The crowd loved Carl Cameron’s question. Rupaul repeated his beliefs, and cited Robert Taft. He did have a moment of sanity by stating that we doubled the NEA, which he wants to abolish. He stated that he is a Constitutionalist, and a true republican.
When asked about immigration, the crwod clapped before the question itself was asked.
McCain was asked about his failed plan. He replied that the plan failed because the American people have lost their trust in government. He reminded people that he is from a border state. He said he would not deport the wife of a serviceman missing in action. We would not reward law breakers, but we must be compassionate.
Romney was asked about his plan, and the moderator pointed out that McCain dodged the question. Romney stated that the difference was between the current 12 million illegal immigrants. He felt that a pathway to citizenship was special treatment. All 12 million should be given time to get their affiars in order, and then leave.
Thompson said we need to be a nation of “high fences and wide gates, and we get to decide when to ope it and close it.” We have to crack down on employers and sanctuary cities. He said you cannot deal with each immigrant individually. We could have enforcement by atttrition if we cut off funding to sanctuary cities. He then went after Huckabee’s immigration stance, which he portrayed as soft.
Rupaul was asked about his immigration stance. He focused on the economic issue, saying “if you subsidize something, you get more of it.” he stated the problem was “welfarism.” We should pull people from Iraq to guard the border.
Huckabee was asked about how to convince Hispanics that the GOP was not against them. Huckabee accurately replied that many Hispanics are against illegal immigration. He then offered lofty preacher rhetoric about light and darkness. We should assume everybody here is legal, so nobody feels shame.
Giuliani was asked about refusing to deport illegal immigrant whistleblowers. He correctly reported it would be absurd to deport them, and that his policies reduced crime more than any city in the history of America. He defended allowing children of illegal immigrants to go to school, and that letting 70,000 kids be criminal victims or perpetrators was wrong.
The night was a chess match, with different candidates going after each other for strategic reasons.
Rupaul is a nut. He did the worst, and nobody else had to be asked if they were viable. All five other candidates went after him, because the 90% of sane republicans like it. Romney actually backed off because he realized it was too easy, and could be seen as gratuitous.
Romney blended into the backgorund. nobody attacked him, because he is seen as falling apart. He did nothing wrong tonight, but did not distinguish himself.
Giuliani and McCain sparred because they are fighting for moderates. They were both so polite and respectful of each other, because they genuinely do respect and like each other, and wish they were not both running. Therefore, their exchanges were so civil that it was a stalemate. This benefits McCain because he is ahead. Rudy did not knock him off. The man who acts decisively hesitates around McCain, and if Rudy does pass him, it will be interesting to see how McCain reacts.
Rudy did slightly better than mcCain when they were not sparring, especially on the immigration and Israel issues.
The fieriest exchanges were between Thompson and huckabee. Thompson mopped up the floor with his fellow Southerner. Fred knew he could not move to the right of huckabee on social issues, but his attempts to show huckabee as an economic leftist, especially on taxes.
Fred thompson won this debate, and he won big.
As I prepared to leave my office and head home, I knew that while South Carolina was going to be a distant memory in a couple weeks, Ground Zero will be seared into my bloodstream forever.
I passed by it again on the way home, and I can still again barely suppress my rage.
The Iranian ship question would not even be asked in a democratic debate.
Forein policy questions must be asked. The War on Terror must be asked in every debate, and often.
For the sake of honoring 3000 dead New Yorkers, we must go balls out and win.
Winning means letting soldiers scorch enemy Earth. It also means government has to be better on every level. This starts with the various levels of government in New York. The construction workers are fine people. They are the best of the best. the bureaucrats need to get out of the way, and let the towers be built stronger, tougher, and higher than ever before.
I am tired of seeing that hole in the ground.
eric